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Post by kelly123 on Jan 8, 2006 10:20:22 GMT -5
I have a situation and I would like your suggestions/input on the matter.
I was married to a 17 yr law enforcement office and living a very verbally abusive, controlled life with my two children and this man. After he had two affairs, that was it, I had seen the light. I cut off all communication to this man. and even explained to him why I was doing this, he could call the kids {they had their own cell phone}, & had regular scheduled visitation with the kids, but he could not speak to me. He called friends-relatives-co-workers ANYONE, and begged them to call me and tell me to speak to him. He also was still seeing the Paramor on a regular basis. Within two weeks of MY communication shut down, he went to his Attorney, and this Big Fish in a small town, obtained an Ex-Parte order and took the kids from me. The one thing that would make me come to my knees, and he did it. He signed an affidavit that stated that; I had threatened suicide 2.5 wks earlier I had not been @ work for 2.5 wks- he did not know if I had lost my job or was on vacation or fired. I was taking Xanex and an anti-depessant. I was drinking excessivley. I was not providing medical attention to the children. The children were in immenant danger of me.
He and his Attorney took this affidavit and went to a {co-worker - good friend of the Attorney's}magistrate and obtained and ex-parte order - So my question is:
Is not more proof needed to obtain an ex-parte and get immediate custody of children - There was no other contributing information - just his statement based on his "believe and knowledge". I have considered filing a formal complaint against this control freak & sick cop, and have the entire ex-parte issue investigated by the States Attorney's office but I am not sure that it would do any good. My Attorney say's it would not do any good. But my Attorney has been wrong on several issues. I have custody of my daughter, he has our son, and I moved to another state for safety reasons within 7 days of the ex-parte issue.
Anyone have information on investigations such as this that are within the cops own family?
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Post by WaTcHeR on Jan 9, 2006 16:34:39 GMT -5
Kelly-
Check your "mail."
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Post by kelly123 on Jan 10, 2006 10:02:51 GMT -5
Kelly - checked her "mail" and did not find anything! Please post any suggestions/comments. Thanks! Kelly
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Post by WaTcHeR on Jan 11, 2006 16:12:26 GMT -5
Anyone have information on investigations such as this that are within the cops own family? This board is still fairly new and I'm not sure how long before someone might come around with an answer for you. One thought did cross my mind, you might try going to the "message board" on Officer.com. With a majority of their members being cops, maybe one of them has had it happened to them or they know some cop that has done it to a love one and might be willing to give you advice? Hopefully you can find an answer there. Good Luck!
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Post by CRAZYGIRLSUSAN on Jan 24, 2006 0:32:05 GMT -5
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Post by Nick on Jan 30, 2006 21:40:59 GMT -5
The cops lie and make shit up and the courts belive them.
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Post by upvic on Mar 5, 2006 19:46:14 GMT -5
I'm new to your site, but I'm not new to experiencing police corruption, brutality & "the code of silence".
I was a victim of a wrongful arrest in 2000 after calling the police for help while I was being assaulted by my new husband. They let my husband walk for beating me up for the first time and yes, they arrested me for domestic violence!! My husband pummeled me to the floor, literally that night. I never struck him back and I was now a criminal to boot. I even got an apology from the prosecutor that had wrongfully prosecuted me that time! The arresting officer would later be charged and prosecuted for statutory rape. I should have destine for this man, but I now question his guilt too.
But it gets much better, then I was assaulted by a police officer in April of '05. I won't get an apology this time I bet! I'm a victim of "their" corrupt system. The police had feared that I would sue them over their blunder in 2000, according to the police chief when he called me questioning me as to what my reasons where for giving the chief a FOIA in regards to the arresting officer & my arrest in 2000. I had filed for divorce against my local, abusive husband in October of 2004 and I needed the information for my divorce. I am a mother & grandmother originally from another state, a transplant. The chief was told by my future ex-husband that I was going to sue the city according to an anonymous call I received. I will not stop attempting to get justice & more importantly to get these men off of our streets! Our entire police department & the city government needs a good old fashioned "house cleaning"! I am one of several victims I'm told and I have personally spoken to other victims. The other victims will not come forward or pursue criminal charges against their perpetrators (the police) due to the REAL fear of retribution! The police have denied FOIA's, falsified reports and withheld documents in my pursuit of justice. All involved in the "sham" should be prosecuted for obstruction of justice and more!
I will share my long, but very interesting story of police brutality & the cover-up that follows to this day, only in part for now. And boy do I have a story for you that goes up the ladder, "the good 'ol boys club" is alive and well in the U.P.! I am in fear for my safety and that of my families, so timing on going public with all is everything. *Note to the "good "ol boys": I have made other capable people aware of the facts and I have passed on copies of all of the documentation to these capable folks and it will be retained in their "safe keeping" indefinitely.
What I am doing by speaking out, just is NOT done around here! We have been terrorized by the police since April of '05. To date I have NEVER been interviewed by the state or the federal government, even though they both supposedly have done investigations on my assault! The FBI in Washington sent me a letter in December stating that my situation will be investigated, but they forwarded it on to another FBI location in my state and then they forwarded on to another FBI location. And "yes", if your thinking they sent it right back to where the problem lies in the first place, your absolutely right!
The federal government's agent ,who has never even contacted me to date, didn't even know that they had turned the tables and charged me with "attempted assault on a police officer", that it had gone to trial, that they drug in a "so called witness" at the last moments of the trial (a witness that was not on the witness or disclosure list), nor that the police had sought out this near brain-dead person two weeks after my assault, and many other very pertinent facts, nor did he care to know the facts. The federal agent that "investigated" my case is partnered up with the brother to the original detective from the state that did NOT investigate my case in the first place. Nor did that state detective interview me at anytime, even though he gave the prosecutor "my statement" according to the prosecutors office. When I spoke to the prosecutor's office to beg them to wait on making a prosecutorial decision after I was interviewed, they told me "we have your statement". I said "you can't, I haven't given one yet". She replied "it's sitting right in front of me." And need I say, the prosecutor that should have sent the case to be looked into by another county or special prosecutor due to bias, instead refused to file charges against the corrupt lawmen. She bragged at trial in her closing statement that because she denied prosecuting these men, that they can't be criminally charged now and that the only avenue I would now have was to pursue a civil case against these poor policemen. She made them out to be the victims! Can you imagine all the cases that would have to be looked into or overturned that these corrupt police officers had a part in if they were prosecuted? Obstruction of justice comes to mind once again! I turned down two plea's, this is just a misdemeanor for God's sake! I could be sent to jail for up to a year just for the "attempted assault of a police officer" charge. What guilty person wouldn't have grabbed a plea bargain? An innocent person with morals would be the only type of person to risk a year in jail, court costs and legal fees. Well, it stung, but the fat lady hasn't sung yet! It's cost me thousands and sitting in jail with real criminals isn't fun, but I'd do it all over again if need be!
The detective from the state canceled a polygraph test the night before I was to take it and that I had requested to take just days after my assault He refused to interview me, he actually stated to me "I'm not going to interview you" when I asked him once again when we could meet so that he could interview me. When my public defender gave the state a FOIA requesting their investigation information, the state withheld the dozens of photographs taken of myself by the state trooper that came to the hospital's ER. (I have my own photo's though with a newspaper also in the photograph's to document the date(s), *note - good tip to remember.) The detective investigating from the state told me of a interview he would be doing with a witness and the detective stated to me after interviewing this so called witness that "he did NOT see anything", but you won't find that interview in any of the returned FOIA information from the state either.
There was a miracle at trial though, the witness had suddenly recalled myself "resisting arrest" (eureka!), but he can't remember any other facts of the night. Also note that not even the police claimed then or now that I resisted. Their witness also placed the police officers in all the wrong places according to the two police officer's own testimony just prior to his testimony. It's interesting also that this "witness" stated that he only found out that he would be testifying at this trial when the police chief came to his home to pick him up that same afternoon of the trial. He said that he'd been with the chief from the time the chief picked him up that afternoon around 3pm until his testifying at trial (at around 7pm or later). My trial started in the morning, it was 11 hours long & 20 minutes of deliberation by the 6 man jury. The trial "shenanigans" is an entire story within itself. For them to run out and round up this kid as witness in the afternoon of the trial tells me that they were worried about the outcome of their sham trial.
If your wondering what all the charges were against me were, they were DUI, refusal and attempted assault of a police officer. I had questioned the BAL (blood alcohol level) immediately and I had to make a trade with the prosecutor for my not contesting that BAL to get about 6 of the ER photographs of me. There were about 40-50 pictures taken of my injuries at the ER with a digital and also a 35mm camera. My state or residence is also the only state that does NOT have tamper-proof blood draw vials. * Note: The vials actually have an expiration date, or should have. The inside of the vials are coated with an anticoagulant that can actually raise your BAL if they are expired. In the manner of the refusal charge, it doesn't get any simpler than "sham"! I was never offered a breath test at the scene and at the jail they offered it to me by putting the plastic straw to my lips and then pulling it away from my lips immediately and then slamming it to the booking counter and that sent it flying across the room. While the plastic machine was still flying through the air, the abusive cop was yelling "your going for a blood draw!" The hospital happenings are quite interesting also, I'll save it for later though. My state has an automatic one year suspension of your drivers license for refusal, so they've now also managed to clip my wings for a year.
The charges of the attempted assault on a police officer didn't arise until after they got word that I was not only NOT going to cower in a corner, but pursue them. Those charges were brought against me after the ER workers sought help for me from the state police.
The charge of attempted assault on a police officer is something with a wide range of variants. They actually weren't claiming that I physically tried to assault anyone, but claimed that I said I was going to kick one of the officers. That's all it takes to be charged with "attempted assault of a police officer" here - - for real. They claim that all my injuries occurred because I was squirming in my handcuffs. They gave absolutely no other reason for my injuries other than that. It's all in the court transcripts. So the physical therapy and the shoulder surgery I had to have wasn't their fault after all, it was my own fault according to them.
Now, back to the bizarre witness. He also stated at trail that a city cop approached him about this traffic stop about 2 weeks after the fact. Apparently the police knew something the rest of us don't, NAPA stores are apparently open at 2:30 am in small towns where the sidewalk rolls up at 8pm. I wonder if the business owners of the stores, in clear view of the traffic stop, where also contacted by the police because they would be just as likely to be open at 2:30 am as the NAPA store would be? Probably not if they aren't dealing drugs or bumping elbow with the local cops or going to hunting camps with the cops. The rumor on the streets is that this kid is a drug user/dealer. I do stress "rumor" due to the fact that I don't use and I haven't witnessed him using/selling.
The only "investigating" that seemed to be done by the FBI agent was the reading of the falsified police reports & the interviewing of the corrupt police and their brethren. This is not a case of a big "plot", but I believe more a matter of one "good 'ol boy" helping out the next "good 'ol boy" and it runs up the ladder that way. The entire story gets so involved & seemingly surreal that I also think that people (& the proper authorities) get skeptical and would rather dismiss it as to investigate it. I also think part of that problem in getting it properly investigated is the desire by the FBI agent and others to believe that this many people could be corrupt. I assure it's very real & I have the documents and evidence to back it up! This is a good time to point out your quote by Adolf Hitler "The great masses of the people will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one". It gets very interesting & very frightening, it has changed my outlook on people in positions of power, in our justice system and people in general. Having had to live through this, I have now seen the best and worst in people. I will fill in the many blanks to the entire story later, there's much more to tell.
I'd like to pass on a good quote by Edmund Burke that I didn't see posted on this site: "The only thing necessary for evil to flourish is that good men do nothing." I wish I could find one man with integrity & some grit within the justice system in the UP! I need some help up here if anyone out there is in a position to help in any way. I'm just plain exhausted trying to be safe, keep my family safe, doing my own investigating and just trying to get by day to day right now! To date I still suffer the physical effects of the assault and I am yet to return back to work. The emotional scars will get better I hope with time, but they will NEVER leave me!Any good advice would be greatly appreciated! If I give up on what has now become my crusade, there WILL be more victims. Feel free to email me if you can offer any help. Thanks for taking the time ~ UPvic
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Post by melinda on Mar 14, 2006 20:12:45 GMT -5
Kelly this is happening to me currently. my ex which i have 3 children with has been on the "force" since 2000. we broke up in 1999. he has lied, cheated, gone against court orders, commited perjury, used his badge to bully us, runs my name and my new husbands name through the database, told MY family members about my husband past, his harrassment and misconduct goes unpunished because I cannot get the evidence i need to stop it, i.e. the records from the database to prove he runs our names. we went to the police station to file a complaint and we were told by the desk sargent that they (cops) can run our names any time they feel like it and that we cant stop them. they (cops) laughed at us and told us to leave. i then wrote a complaint letter and sent it to the chief. (and the mayor, dept of justice, fbi, attorney general, da's office, and about 10 other places so that i knew someone would do something!) they set a date for a hearing and it was a joke. they bullied us and would not let us speak and they asked for proof but when i had requested it they would not give it to me. my advice to you...dont trust them. he is going to put you thru the ringer and make up things about you... keep a daily diary, get all the paperwork you need to prove he is lying. keep it safe. and most of all dont back down from him!!! dont let him ruin your life and the lives of your children. fight!! dont let him get away with this. start now! keep track of everything from driving by your home to contacting your family and friends to saying things to your children. keep the lines of communication open with your children, it is very important. he plays head games with you and will do the same with your children. be safe and best of luck!!! melin
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Post by dirtycops on Mar 18, 2006 9:52:26 GMT -5
I have a situation and I would like your suggestions/input on the matter. I was married to a 17 yr law enforcement office and living a very verbally abusive, controlled life with my two children and this man. After he had two affairs, that was it, I had seen the light. I cut off all communication to this man. and even explained to him why I was doing this, he could call the kids {they had their own cell phone}, & had regular scheduled visitation with the kids, but he could not speak to me. He called friends-relatives-co-workers ANYONE, and begged them to call me and tell me to speak to him. He also was still seeing the Paramor on a regular basis. Within two weeks of MY communication shut down, he went to his Attorney, and this Big Fish in a small town, obtained an Ex-Parte order and took the kids from me. The one thing that would make me come to my knees, and he did it. He signed an affidavit that stated that; I had threatened suicide 2.5 wks earlier I had not been @ work for 2.5 wks- he did not know if I had lost my job or was on vacation or fired. I was taking Xanex and an anti-depessant. I was drinking excessivley. I was not providing medical attention to the children. The children were in immenant danger of me. He and his Attorney took this affidavit and went to a {co-worker - good friend of the Attorney's}magistrate and obtained and ex-parte order - So my question is: Is not more proof needed to obtain an ex-parte and get immediate custody of children - There was no other contributing information - just his statement based on his "believe and knowledge". I have considered filing a formal complaint against this control freak & sick cop, and have the entire ex-parte issue investigated by the States Attorney's office but I am not sure that it would do any good. My Attorney say's it would not do any good. But my Attorney has been wrong on several issues. I have custody of my daughter, he has our son, and I moved to another state for safety reasons within 7 days of the ex-parte issue. Anyone have information on investigations such as this that are within the cops own family?
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Post by dirtycops on Mar 18, 2006 10:22:33 GMT -5
Fight fire with fire his accusations against you can also be made against him. Police are not above the law they just like to pretend they are. The people in this nation have sat back and let the employees they pay (Police Officers, law enforcement) take total control of what can and can not be done to the so called offenders. It's time we take back the authority and respect that should be shown ANY employer. Cops abuse the power they are trusted with, laws need to be made to prevent them from abusing and going above the law. Some think they ARE the law when in fact they are simply hired to uphold it, enforce it and do so with respect to those they 'arrest'. In Oklahoma City the police are totally corrupt, the OKC jailers beat the residents, throw them against the walls, kick them, abuse them. It has been reported time and time again to the acting Sheriff and he 'overlooks' their actions, the court system is so corrupted that it too overlooks these abusive policemen/women that insist the abuse was 'necessary'. This has happened to my own son TWICE now because of the city's activities at the City Walk area. On the early hours of March 18, 2006 his friend was 'arrested' but the officer was BEATING his friend violently and without mercy. My son went over and asked the officer to stop hurting his friend, the officer refused and continued to beat the friend. My son pulled the officer off his friend believing that his friend's LIFE was now at stake only to be attacked himself by this mentally unstable officer. After being taken to the OKC Jail with his friend, taking the beating for his friend to keep his friend alive my son called me and told me that another friend had the whole event taped on his cell phone of these beatings. There were many witnesses to this officer's excessive force. Citizens should be given the RIGHTS TO PREVENT police officers from excessive force against another human being. There is no excuse for a police officer to have more power then the tax paying citizen that pay them to PROTECT NOT INFLICT INJURY or murder or kill them when they make a mistake. In the case of your husband his word (he feels) will out weigh yours simply because of his position as a police officer. This should not be a considered fact in a family dispute of any kind. Call your Representative, call any and everyone who is a law maker to help change this unfair loop hole that allows law enforcement agencies to ABUSE their positions and trusted power to protect. I intend to do so, the law enforcement agencies have become excessive and abusive of their positions. One female officer in OKC Edmond task force withheld my son's military badge after false arrest. She didn't document that she had his badge and did not return it to him when he left the jail. I personally had to appeal to her superior to return his badge however, by then he lost his job due to the fact he could not get on base without his badge. The badge was then returned to him by this superior officer AFTER this administration had destroyed his life by causing him to loose his job due to the lack of professional behavior of this female officer. It is becoming very clear why so many dislike, distrust and call the law enforcement names. We can not change this injustice on our own however, united and focused on the necessary actions that need to be taken by EVERY individual who pays taxes we can do it as a group of many that our law makers can not ingnore if we will stand together, persist and insist that our law inforcement agencies do not place themselves above the law and the laws be inacted and put into place that an officer can not beat someone, sick a vicious dog to bite, maul and mame someone, nor disfigure them with ANY device or inflict any extreme pain on someone simply because they chose to do so. It's time the laws change to PROTECT the citizen from the DIRTY COPS! Dirty meaning they are abusive, corrupt, use the power they are trusted with to inflict injury on others making them no better then a criminal themselves. Let's make the change for our own protection from those who are falsely vowing to protect us as they use their authority to inflict injury, murder and satisfy their lust to break laws. Let's stop them from using their protection authority to be a 'legal' physical abuser, murderer and stalker. They should not have the right to VICTIMIZE ANYONE what so ever! I want to know what happened to INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty? It appears to me as if the police are saying if I 'think' you did something or 'think' you are doing something then it's okay to beat or kill you. That's not acceptable.
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Post by PIG h8r on Mar 19, 2006 2:57:56 GMT -5
ditto: "The cops lie and make shit up and the courts believe them. '
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Post by WaTcHeR on Mar 20, 2006 14:17:22 GMT -5
So many cops are like the Pope's balls. There are worthless, they just hang there!
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Post by martin greer on Jul 31, 2006 16:15:20 GMT -5
I was taser shot beaten tortured and incarcerated for weeks by police with no weapon no crime or charges no violence no threats hands in plain view calmly sitting and asking for rights respect in simple armchair. There was no judge no jury no lawyer allowed by police. This was a set up by wife's divorce lawyer who told wife to hire a LCSW to call police and report me as suicidal maniac. I never had any mental illnees never took any meds never spoke to any therapist had no criminal history or attempts at suicide. Never raised voice asked to be allowwed to walk away but told by Hillsborough County Florida deputies that once they have been caled they must arrest someone even if there is no probable cause. No complaint was allowed from INT Afairs, Vicitms Assisitance, FDLE, State ATTY, DOH, DOJ Advocacy Council State or Fed courts. Wife got everything $1,200,000 $450,000 house car and sailboat. All facts and report Docs prove my complaint attempt to be completely true. After atempting to leave NAZI AMERICA found that no country will accept 64 year old man with no money no health insurance so returned to get SS pension which is all I have. Still feel betrayed and fearful so sty indoors all day and night alone except to get groceries.
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