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Post by jenny on Jul 23, 2004 4:07:30 GMT -5
Is it Police Misconduct when you file a complaint against a state trooper for failure to assist and he leaves threatning messages on your answering machine like "I'm gonna get you" And I would also like to know if it's Police Misconduct is Patrol Man who is speeding in left lane as you are making a left turn, passes you on the right, then makes u turn and stops you on a fabricated reason is Police Misconduct for falsafying police report. Or if police stop you if you are not making any traffic violation, and they make something up which is untrue
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Post by Administrator on Jul 23, 2004 10:00:28 GMT -5
If you filed a complaint against an officer you took a big step in exercising your rights as an American!
Is it "risky" to file a complaint against a cop? Sadly the answer could be yes. Three things cops hate are: 1. Complaints filed against them. 2. Attorneys that are up against them. 3. The media "that is when the media doesn't have anything good to say about them"
If you did file a complaint and you believe the trooper is the one calling you, I suggest you call the F.B.I. and file a complaint and also talk to an ATTORNEY! "For your safety and peace of mind." Maybe the attorney can get a restraining order against the cop or get your phone tap if he calls you again ?? As far as fabricated reasons COPS do it all the time! A lot of times they will make up something or plant something on your person just to make their case against you. My favorites are well he was driving around in a "high crime neighborhood" so I pulled him over or sir you smell like "pot" that gives the cop at that point right to search your person and the car.
Yes cops will LIE!
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Post by Maya Marion on Dec 11, 2004 21:28:53 GMT -5
It's said when you under investigation for a crime you didn't committ and when the Indian River County Sheriff's department find that they have nothing own you. They go into your home and place some 1980's surrvelance equipment in your home. THen a friend of you'r whose on the force teels you the equipment is there. Then when you find it and leave for a moinute it's gone. Then they attempt to send you death threats like you won't get on the internet and blast it all over the world. I'm not scared of you. And that's not the half of the rights violated. Thats just all I could type tonight. Believe me it gets worst!!!!!!
Help!!
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Post by snc917 on Jul 13, 2005 15:23:54 GMT -5
you have good and bad cops just the same as good and bad teachers, doctors, lawyers, politicians (I take this one back...LOL). They to are only human. Dont take the blame out on all officers. I have met both good and bad, I also know of one who was accused, didnt do the crime and lost his job because he was set up (By fellow officers who are currupt). Like the poster said above, file your complaints, and keep them going.
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Post by evelyn on Aug 17, 2005 16:46:14 GMT -5
Sacramento: can a cop be in uniform off duty working 21 security as a police officer in a club? Can a police officer or Sergeant off duty write their own police report if they were the persons involved? can a police officer arrest you if there off duty for supposedly back handing him? If you were charged with a misdemeanor and the cop used brutality how can you sue them if you were charged with a crime? is it true that the public defender says that you cannot sue until your case gets dismissed or goes to trial and its proven that your not guilty. whats my limitation for suing a police department?
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Post by No Name on Aug 17, 2005 19:23:52 GMT -5
Sacramento: can a cop be in uniform off duty working 21 security as a police officer in a club? *** Some cities allow their officers to work as security guards off duty. You would have to check and see if Sacramento allows it, they probably do. Can a police officer or Sergeant off duty write their own police report if they were the persons involved? can a police officer arrest you if there off duty for supposedly back handing him? ****I'm not sure I follow you on this question. If an officer was working off duty, and an incident occurred where he arrested or detained you for other police officers to come and take you to jail, I would think that officer would write out a statement to the events that occurred. The other officers that took you to jail would write out the police report I would think. Then again the off duty officer might write the report, since cops are on duty pretty much 24/7. If you were charged with a misdemeanor and the cop used brutality how can you sue them if you were charged with a crime? ***** GET AN ATTORNEY!!! Also get statements from any witness that might have saw the officer use access force on you. is it true that the public defender says that you cannot sue until your case gets dismissed or goes to trial and its proven that your not guilty. **** I would think that would be two seperate cases. Talk to an attorney!!! whats my limitation for suing a police department? ****** In my state it is 2 years. Check with your attorney for what California is. I would think at least 1-2 years. Here are two recent articles on police brutality and law suits. cbs2chicago.com/seenon/local_story_228181047.htmlwww.belleville.com/mld/belleville/news/local/12404524.htm
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Post by evety on Aug 17, 2005 22:05:02 GMT -5
:'(Sacramento: how do you start by suing the police department? what paper do you start with?
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Post by No Name on Aug 18, 2005 0:42:27 GMT -5
>>> ATTORNEY <<<
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Post by Taz on Aug 23, 2005 21:25:26 GMT -5
I filed a complaint with Marion County Sheriff Indiana Internal Affairs regarding a Deputy that lied about a probable cause affidavit. Now the Internal afairs dept has filed charges against me, as False Informing, they tried to file charges also for Harassment. Now I have to go to court for this bogus bull, they refused to investigate the situation, they just said that I lied. I have witnesses to back my allegations, but now I stand trial, that liar of a cop should, not me.
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Post by Administrator on Sept 1, 2005 1:25:53 GMT -5
Cops sometimes do that, turn around and file charges on you. I guess there hoping that the public will see, who is the less of the two evils really is? It's all a $game$- In some states you can't sue a police officer for false arrest, where in other states it's getting harder to do. If you get locked up on a stupid mistake an officer makes, or they think you look like someone "wanted" and they take you to jail and you wait for maybe 6-12 hours. Then they come back and say yep you were right, you weren't the person we was looking for. Next thing out of the D.A.'s or police officers mouth usually is...... ooop's, our fault we messed up, sorry about that and cya, you're free to go. Have a good day! Bye-bye now, you come back now you hear and visit us. Ok? Let us know how your day in court went.
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Post by Screamolay on Sept 12, 2005 15:12:29 GMT -5
Hello, I'm new to this site. I was looking around on the web, and found this forum. If any one has some advise please forward the message. I live in Rogers Park Chi Ill., near the 24th district. The police are bad and brutial and that is why we don't call them if we see a crime. I would like to share an incident that accured last year and to this day. My fiancé was pulled over by 2 policemen that he had known from a prior arrest. The policeman asked him (my fiancé) to help them find some GUNS. Furthermore, they told him that he would be place under arrest for crack cocaine if he did not find them 2 GUNS with an hour. My fiancé called me and told me about the fony arrest. I was scared crying and all. It was 10:00pm I didn't have a lawyer we were screwed. I called my brother and told him everything, and asked if he could help me. He arranged a meeting where I had to pay a guy $600 for 2 GUNS. I called the policeman cell phone and told them where I had placed the GUNS. I recorded the scene on my phone. However, when I called OPS they had told me that I may go to jail for buying GUNS and giving them to the police. This is a true story, and as of today, we are constantly being harassed by the 24th district. If anyone has some positive advise please post it on the message board.
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Post by taz1321 on Oct 3, 2005 13:27:15 GMT -5
I havent gone to court yet, it keeps getting postponed. I really want to face this cop and tell him what I think. It will be interesting. I always thought that when you file a complaint with internal affairs that they follow up on it, instead of calling the citizen who filed a complaint a liar and filed charges against them. It makes me think that they are covering up something. Cops sometimes do that, turn around and file charges on you. I guess there hoping that the public will see, who is the less of the two evils really is? It's all a $game$- In some states you can't sue a police officer for false arrest, where in other states it's getting harder to do. If you get locked up on a stupid mistake an officer makes, or they think you look like someone "wanted" and they take you to jail and you wait for maybe 6-12 hours. Then they come back and say yep you were right, you weren't the person we was looking for. Next thing out of the D.A.'s or police officers mouth usually is...... ooop's, our fault we messed up, sorry about that and cya, you're free to go. Have a good day! Bye-bye now, you come back now you hear and visit us. Ok? Let us know how your day in court went.
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Post by taz on Oct 13, 2005 18:44:22 GMT -5
well, my attorney has ask the prosecution for evidence against me for false informing and filing the complaint against this sheriff, they (prosecution) refuses to give up the evidence thats because they dont have any, and they need to start making up stuff. My husband has filed the same complaint through policeabuse.org and they sheriff's dept has never replied to them. The sheriff's dept even kept my husband in jail 8 days, when the judge OR'd him out. They said ooops we didnt read the court minutes. My attorney and the court had to keep calling the court and every day was a different excuse as to why they never released him. I am in search of a civil attorney in Indiana if any body knows one. Because of the retaliation against me and the false imprisonment I want this to go to civil trial.
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Post by Why on Nov 18, 2005 13:16:29 GMT -5
Good lord.. why is it that the criminals and their girlfriends/mothers/whatevers can't spell or use grammar?
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Post by hadenuff on Nov 19, 2005 11:05:30 GMT -5
Good lord.. why is it that the criminals and their girlfriends/mothers/whatevers can't spell or use grammar? Do you think that bad grammar makes one a criminal, or do you think that it justifies police misconduct? I'm quite sure you understood the writer's intent; let's see if I understood your intention: Bully the writer into silence because you disagree with a point-of-view given on the forum. I would rather have seen you give an intelligent counter-point, using good grammar as an example to all.
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Post by Zack on Dec 19, 2005 20:06:45 GMT -5
Police officers actually should be called "peace keepers," but we all know that term can't be used in today's world.
The more we allow them to get away with, the easier it is for us to slip in a "police state."
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Post by zedleppinusa on Dec 28, 2005 0:08:26 GMT -5
One former cop I knew from a small town in Michigan quit the police force because of what he saw as rampant corruption. In his town of just 10,000 or so he reported the same kind of garbage that Cea said occurred in the NYPD: cops lying on the stand, intentionally dishonest police reports, collaborating with criminals and all the rest.
Here's a test: If you know a cop you believe is honest, ask him how often these things occur in his department. His answer will probably shock you.
Who is willing to stand up to the abuse? Not many people. Cops routinely lie and cover for each other. Judges are not totally oblivious to the excesses of law enforcement, but usually just don't care and are willing participants with police. Defendants and regular people stand little chance for a fair trial or fair hearing.
The situation is even worse at the federal level. The FBI, IRS and other "investigative" and law enforcement federal agencies do basically whatever they please and many times are more corrupt than the people that they are investigating. Federal prosecutors and federal judges work hand in hand at making sure the accused are convicted regardless of what the facts really are. Anyone who has been targeted by the feds or has a family member who has been knows exactly what I'm talking about.
There is so much that could be said about the abuses by law enforcement on all levels that a lengthy book could not even cover it all. On local, state and federal levels, entrapment runs rampant to catch everything from speeders to drug dealers. But law enforcement officials frequently commit crimes in order to catch the criminals. Hence the very regular practice of undercover law enforcement officials approaching people with drugs and possessing drugs but then arresting people who take the bait.
Then of course there are the very regular well-known practices of cops just sitting around in select locations looking to bust speeders. Prime spots are usually heavily trafficked roads where the speed limit just dropped (for instance, a busy road where the limit just went from 55 to 45 or 45 to 35). Before the driver realizes the limit has dropped he is pulled over by a menacing cop who is looking to meet a ticket quota or is just "doing his job" by harassing otherwise law-abiding citizens.
Have a disagreement with a cop and say something he doesn't like (even politely without profanity)? Well, get ready to be arrested for disorderly conduct. Unaware that one of your brake lights is out? Too bad, be prepared to be pulled over and get ready for an uncomfortable interrogation. Not wearing your seatbelt? Click it or ticket, punk.
None of these examples are far-fetched. They go on all the time, everywhere, everyday. Outside of these petty examples are the far more troubling allegations being raised by Cea that also happen far more than anyone wants to admit. And that's a huge problem: we know these things exist and we know it happens far more than we let on. But we want to continue to live in this make-believe world where the cops never do anything wrong and that it's just a "generalization" to say that the law enforcement culture has a large corrupt element to it.
Yes there are plenty of good cops. But there are too many bad ones that are getting away with crimes and an arrogant abuse of power. The problem goes beyond just the personality of a particular local, state or federal law enforcement official. The problem is the culture of law enforcement itself that can step all over anyone it chooses with little accountability from lawmakers or the judiciary.
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Post by Just readin on Jan 3, 2006 16:59:39 GMT -5
I'm amazed -- I'm new to the site and have read some of these stories of police corruption -- I am a law enforcement officer -- been in law enforcement for 15 years. I know bad police are out there.... but I have NEVER come into contact with the likes of some that are in these posts.. I wouldn't consider myself naive, by any means, I've seen police speed, not wear seatbelts, have domestic's with their wives... (lots)... but I haven't encountered the amount of corruption that is posted here.
And I'm not saying that ANY corruption is tolerable -- at all -- but these stories are horrifying!!
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Post by WaTcHeR on Jan 3, 2006 19:06:21 GMT -5
I'm amazed -- I'm new to the site and have read some of these stories of police corruption -- I am a law enforcement officer -- been in law enforcement for 15 years. I know bad police are out there.... but I have NEVER come into contact with the likes of some that are in these posts.. I wouldn't consider myself naive, by any means, I've seen police speed, not wear seatbelts, have domestic's with their wives... (lots)... but I haven't encountered the amount of corruption that is posted here. And I'm not saying that ANY corruption is tolerable -- at all -- but these stories are horrifying!! You didn't say if you were an officer all those years in one location? Any how it amazes me the amount of police misconduct that goes on all over America! I'm not sure if you found this message board first or if you came from www.policecrimes.com/ Go there and look up your state under "cases of police brutality" and see how your state is compared to other states on police misconduct. They usually post on the average of 50 stories a week, of police misconduct.
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Post by Just readin on Jan 4, 2006 14:06:35 GMT -5
Yes, I have been in law enforcement in the same department for my entire career.
I found this website because I heard on the news (in a neighboring state) that my very first boyfriend (I'm a girl) apparently became a sheriff's deputy in my old town (he was there 9 years apparently) and he and another deputy were fired for police misconduct.... I thought it was great (not for the victim of the police misconduct) -- But I thought HA! I'm a BETTER police officer than he is/was!!!
I'm sorry, but I pride myself as a good, honest officer.... believe it or not I am one of the few good ones. I said this on another post but I turned in a one dollar bill to our Property and Evidence Section because I found it on the side of the interstate while looking for a suspected bag of dope thrown from a vehicle.
Other officers actually made fun of me for as they said, "wasting the paper to turn in a dollar". I told them that it wasn't my dollar -- and when you're a cop, there ain't any "finders keepers". I told them that -- whether it's one dollar or one HUNDRED dollars - if you take it -- you are a THIEF!
I won't let anyone give me free meals, or discounts -- I can't stand that!!!! We have fired officers who have ASKED for their discounts - in uniform - in front of people! I HATE THAT!! Those people don't owe us anything -- no free food, sodas, discounts.... !!!! I refuse to take them.
I have actually had to argue with a fast food cashier to PLEASE JUST LET ME PAY FOR MY FOOD -- she kept saying, "we aren't supposed to charge police in uniform...." OH GOD THAT DRIVES ME CRAZY!!!! She wasn't doing anything wrong -- but it made me feel so stupid, dirty in fact, to have all these people in line behind me thinking "well, WE DON'T get free food!"
Sorry, I'm venting...
I have looked at my state (misconduct stories) -- and I was shocked at some of the cases -- thank goodness NONE have been from my Department. Still keeping my fingers crossed everytime I look at the postings...
I know we've had some bad apples in our Department -- and I'm sure we still have them.. I just haven't come across any of them.
I did argue with an officer I was backing -- because he kept yelling at people he stopped -- for them asking "why he stopped them". And I let him have it!!!! I said "look man, as long as you are RIGHT I will back you to the ends of the earth, but when you're wrong - don't turn around to see if I'm behind you! I told him that "you can't go from "GIVE ME YOUR FU*%^ING DRIVER'S LICENSE down to 'have a nice day sir' in one incident.
I told him that if he "don't think our Internal Affairs Section is above putting someone in a car, with a video/audio recorder, and tell them to run a redlight in front of your patrol car - you are sadly mistaken!!" And that's what IA should do! I guess he took my butt chewing to heart -- He's been a MUCH better officer since...
Sorry, I'm venting, again!
I really don't mean to sound like "Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farms", but I just believe in being a good officer. I think before I open my mouth and wonder -- "ok before you say it, would you want a police officer saying this to your Mother, Sister, Brother, Father? If not - don't say it or don't do it".
I give people the respect they deserve, until they don't deserve it anymore. I mean if you hit me, then we are going to fight, but then it will be over, and I will take you to jail. But I won't stalk you for days and years after it....
I have had complaints made on me. I had a woman go on the 6:00pm news -- I found out while I was eating dinner, watching the news, that I was under investigation for use of force and misconduct!!!!
I arrested her two nights earlier, and she fought and kicked and she jerked her hands out of one of the handcuffs (which is the wrist bruises she showed on tv). She failed to mention that she swung the dangling cuff at me and struck me in the face with it.
I didn't even charge her with assault. I just charged her with resisting. I figure the assault (with the cuff) was included in her resisting. I never even cussed her! I grabbed the dangling cuff and re-handcuffed her -- and all I said, in a loud voice "YOU ARE SO UNDER ARREST!"
After the news, I had my family take photos of the huge bruise on my face where the handcuff hit me - so I could have them for court.
Thank goodness -- a good samaritan -- contacted our Internal Affairs Section and told them that he WATCHED ME ARREST that woman that was on the news.
He was driving down the road and said he stopped and watched the scuffle.
He gave a 9 page, taped statement telling IA that "that lady cop did everything she could do not to hurt that woman, she should have beat the crap out of her!"
This same guy came to court with me and testified to her resisting arrest charge. And I brought photos of MY bruises -- she was found guilty, and the use of force and misconduct charges against me were dropped (or found to have no merit).
I'm sure if that guy didn't take time out of his life - to come to my defense -- it would have been my word against hers and she probably would have won....
Again, sorry for the long post...... Thanks for reading, if you stayed long enough...
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