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Post by Shuftin on Feb 2, 2007 2:21:49 GMT -5
Money is the root of all evil. The State gives the Federal Government money. The Federal Government charges a handling fee and then returns the money back to the State and calls it a grant. Think about this!!! A Grant?? We [the Federal Government] grant you [the State] the privilege of having your own money returned to you but only if you kiss our ass. The State salivates at the thought of having their own money returned to them. The public has no legal consideration in this transaction. The State wants their money returned and they will work against the will of the people [their constituents] in order to get it. The Federal Government dictates and the State will kiss their ass. Speed limits, seat belt laws, drivers insurance, etc., etc. As a police officer you know far more about this than I do. Now the State has their money. Guess what? Now it’s between the State and the County. Then it’s between the County and the City. Basically shit rolls down hill. Those who are at the bottom of the shit pile are “We the people” and we have no say in the matter. We the people do not do not receive our own money back in the form of a “Grant” so we the people are not bribed into compliance. Therefore we the people can only be Enforced and through this Enforcement even more money is to be gained. The Enforcers of the Federal Government dictates are LE [Law Enforcement]. What we have is a Socialist Dictator of a Federal Government and LE is on the payroll of the Government and low man in the food chain. Now to answer your question “What would you do to change it if you had the power? What would the role of the police be in society today?” DECENTRALIZATION. DECENTRALIZATION. DECENTRALIZATION. Cut the string between the Federal Government, State Government, City Government and we the people. The Federal Government is a control freak and laws are designed to force Government control on the people. Money is used as a bribe for local authorities [LE] to Enforce Governmental control on the people. Sheep led to slaughter. For sake of argument let’s go back 200 years. There was the Town people, the Town Mayor, and the Town sheriff. What ever was said or done was by a mutual meeting and agreeing of the minds. The police worked under the Mayor and both worked for the people. The people had a say and there was no outside Dictator with bribe money in hand. Was it a life of milk and honey back then? No, of course not but I believe there was a stronger bond between the police and the people. Police were the good guys, the crime fighters. If trouble brewed police officers were the peace keepers. Yes there was the black/white thing and the [newer] Jim Crow laws. If I lived 200 years ago I would be bitching about the black/white thing and the [newer] Jim Crow laws. It is in my nature to bitch/fight. By the way have you ever read Nicoli Machiavelli “The Prince” or any of his other works? It is an easier read than Kant. If not here is the complete book “The Prince” by Nicoli Machiavelli online and free. www.constitution.org/mac/prince00.htmThis is required reading for some college degrees. Danger, danger, Will Robertson, danger. After you read it you will never see life in the same way again. I see Machiavellism everywhere.
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Post by Shuftin on Jan 24, 2007 3:42:08 GMT -5
When I was in the Military (Army) we discussed global issues. When I got out of the military the discussions I faced were "who's dogs had puppies" and "who's tractor is stuck". My problem is that I see things on too broad of a scale. I view police officers as the armed branch of the Government. There we go again, Government. I agree that it is hard for me to see police officers as individuals serving the community.
Shuftin! What? Huh? Er? Eh? Duh? You speaking German again? I didn't hear anything about dogs or tractors coming out of your mouth.
My bad. Government = Police.
I was a soldier and I carried a gun for the Government. I've seen Government corruption on a grand scale.
In the Army my official M-O-S (Military Operational Specialty) was a 63Charley [Track & wheel mechanic]. If it required diesel, gasoline or kerosene and produced carbon dioxide I was required to overhaul, rebuild and/or fix it. In 1980 the Army decided that this was too much information and too much responsibility for a single man to be proficient at. 63Charley was broken down into sub categories. I was stationed with a self-propelled 155 Howitzer unit at the time so I became a 63Delta. I was only authorized to work on and to fix Howitzers from this point forward. This is the official version. In actuality I was part of the "Special Weapons" team. Duh um Duh nukes. Yes a 155 Howitzer can lob a nuke 18 miles or more. I was forbidden to go to the Berlin wall for fear that I would be kidnapped and tortured for my secrets. Even the names of the hand tools themselves that we used were considered "Top Secrete". Go figure on that one. When I got out of the military in 1983 I signed a release form stating that I would maintain my secrets for ten years. Today in 2007 whatever I know is now outdated.
Yes I have a problem with the Government and the police are the hired gunmen (Soldiers) of the Government.
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Post by Shuftin on Jan 30, 2007 1:36:59 GMT -5
Okay I'm back or so I think. Sorry for the delay. I damned near cashed a check that my body couldn't cover. This is odd as I consider myself to be a vibrant young man. Oh well, work is work.
I used to have to have the body of a Greek God. Now I just have the body of a Greek. Is it possible for muscles to bruise themselves simply from overworking? My body is in pain.
spd49
I don't really get your reply. What does your military service have to do with police misconduct or government corruption? Because something in the military was classified means that it was wrong or corrupt?
No, no of course not. A military GI is obliged to obey orders and not to think. Individuality and free thinking is forbidden. There is a distinct culture and a cultism attitude similar to that of gang mentality. Google "The Nuremberg Defense".
Police officers are hired gunmen of the Government, by the Government, and for the Government. Police officers are on the payroll of the Government. Police officers conduct Government business, in the interest of the Government, and for the betterment of the Government.
As a former Governmental hired gunman (Military GI) I've been there, done it, and did it. What am I to think when I see a Governmental hired gunman in uniform?
You and I have worked in different departments, and in different times. Our uniforms may be different but our payroll master is still the same. All I'm saying is that possibly I have seen more than you have.
worried;
Thanks for the complement and the invite. Let me crawl there. No sudden moves okay.
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Post by Shuftin on Jan 23, 2007 3:06:41 GMT -5
You most certainly do not have answer this.
What is spd49
Is it something like Public School 49?
Police Department 49?
What does "S" stand for?, and no I am not going there.
Just having fun.
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Post by Shuftin on Jan 23, 2007 2:51:32 GMT -5
It is not my belief that police officers are high school drop outs and paddy flippers. My intent was that in the greater scheme of things concerning Governmental bureaucracy police officers are at the bottom of the totem pole. Of all those with power and authority police officers are the equivalent of (Governmental) paddy flippers by their position. In other words police officers are on the receiving end and the last in line of Governmental bureaucracy and can do little to make world changes.
First: I have always held that the world (America) would be a better place if police officers were better educated (College Degrees). I have never portrayed myself as knowing the exact level of education of police officers.
Second: I fully realize that there is a deficit of police officers across our nation. To place a criteria that all incoming recruits must first have a college degree would make the deficit even greater. I was mildly surprised with the degree of education in your department. Note that I said mildly surprised.
Third: Should you read all of my scribblings on this web site (as well as my scribblings on other web sites) you may note that I am Anti-Big Government and not Anti-LE.
Fourth: This web site is an elbow and point at the police officers web site and yes I do my fair share of it. As a parent when I see bad children doing bad things I look to the parents and blame the parents. Most of my posts point to the Gods, the Masters, and the Signers Of Paychecks when I pipe up about police officers.
As a police officer you are well aware of the difference between a drug user sitting on his couch in his living room and the kingpin who actually flies the drugs into the USA. My gun sites are set on the kingpin. I view police officers as the users sitting on the couch. I can elbow and point but in actuality I blame the Government.
The problem with the hippy's and the flower children in the sixties is that they thought that change could be made from the bottom up. No No And Hell No. Change is made from the top down. I am after your boss and not individual police officers.
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Post by Shuftin on Jan 22, 2007 18:59:05 GMT -5
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Post by Shuftin on Jan 24, 2007 3:42:08 GMT -5
When I was in the Military (Army) we discussed global issues. When I got out of the military the discussions I faced were "who's dogs had puppies" and "who's tractor is stuck". My problem is that I see things on too broad of a scale. I view police officers as the armed branch of the Government. There we go again, Government. I agree that it is hard for me to see police officers as individuals serving the community.
Shuftin! What? Huh? Er? Eh? Duh? You speaking German again? I didn't hear anything about dogs or tractors coming out of your mouth.
My bad. Government = Police.
I was a soldier and I carried a gun for the Government. I've seen Government corruption on a grand scale.
In the Army my official M-O-S (Military Operational Specialty) was a 63Charley [Track & wheel mechanic]. If it required diesel, gasoline or kerosene and produced carbon dioxide I was required to overhaul, rebuild and/or fix it. In 1980 the Army decided that this was too much information and too much responsibility for a single man to be proficient at. 63Charley was broken down into sub categories. I was stationed with a self-propelled 155 Howitzer unit at the time so I became a 63Delta. I was only authorized to work on and to fix Howitzers from this point forward. This is the official version. In actuality I was part of the "Special Weapons" team. Duh um Duh nukes. Yes a 155 Howitzer can lob a nuke 18 miles or more. I was forbidden to go to the Berlin wall for fear that I would be kidnapped and tortured for my secrets. Even the names of the hand tools themselves that we used were considered "Top Secrete". Go figure on that one. When I got out of the military in 1983 I signed a release form stating that I would maintain my secrets for ten years. Today in 2007 whatever I know is now outdated.
Yes I have a problem with the Government and the police are the hired gunmen (Soldiers) of the Government.
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Post by Shuftin on Jan 22, 2007 11:35:54 GMT -5
I live in a small town, low crime rate. Our police here like to invent crime so they have something to do. In most cases they target children (we do not have gangs) here making arrest on the craziest things and in my opinion brewing a breeding field for criminals. They abuse their power to the fullest and like it when the towns people are under their control. There are very few people who will stand up and fight for their rights, which are so badly mistreated that it worries me. In my town there are no good cops, I can't say there is just a few bad apples, the whole basket is rotten. Worried;Check out: policecrime.proboards28.com/index.cgi?board=policenews&action=display&thread=1169368494If this problem exists in your home town it is from the top down. The action of returning a bad bushel of rotten apples will likely net you a coupon for "Buy one get one free". Now you have twice the bad apples and they are even more rotten than the original batch. My suggestion is to go after the vendor. The Mayor, City council, or whoever. Remember the Nuremberg defense "I was just following orders".
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Post by Shuftin on Jan 23, 2007 3:06:41 GMT -5
You most certainly do not have answer this.
What is spd49
Is it something like Public School 49?
Police Department 49?
What does "S" stand for?, and no I am not going there.
Just having fun.
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Post by Shuftin on Jan 23, 2007 2:51:32 GMT -5
It is not my belief that police officers are high school drop outs and paddy flippers. My intent was that in the greater scheme of things concerning Governmental bureaucracy police officers are at the bottom of the totem pole. Of all those with power and authority police officers are the equivalent of (Governmental) paddy flippers by their position. In other words police officers are on the receiving end and the last in line of Governmental bureaucracy and can do little to make world changes.
First: I have always held that the world (America) would be a better place if police officers were better educated (College Degrees). I have never portrayed myself as knowing the exact level of education of police officers.
Second: I fully realize that there is a deficit of police officers across our nation. To place a criteria that all incoming recruits must first have a college degree would make the deficit even greater. I was mildly surprised with the degree of education in your department. Note that I said mildly surprised.
Third: Should you read all of my scribblings on this web site (as well as my scribblings on other web sites) you may note that I am Anti-Big Government and not Anti-LE.
Fourth: This web site is an elbow and point at the police officers web site and yes I do my fair share of it. As a parent when I see bad children doing bad things I look to the parents and blame the parents. Most of my posts point to the Gods, the Masters, and the Signers Of Paychecks when I pipe up about police officers.
As a police officer you are well aware of the difference between a drug user sitting on his couch in his living room and the kingpin who actually flies the drugs into the USA. My gun sites are set on the kingpin. I view police officers as the users sitting on the couch. I can elbow and point but in actuality I blame the Government.
The problem with the hippy's and the flower children in the sixties is that they thought that change could be made from the bottom up. No No And Hell No. Change is made from the top down. I am after your boss and not individual police officers.
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Post by Shuftin on Jan 22, 2007 18:59:05 GMT -5
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Post by Shuftin on Jan 22, 2007 11:35:54 GMT -5
I live in a small town, low crime rate. Our police here like to invent crime so they have something to do. In most cases they target children (we do not have gangs) here making arrest on the craziest things and in my opinion brewing a breeding field for criminals. They abuse their power to the fullest and like it when the towns people are under their control. There are very few people who will stand up and fight for their rights, which are so badly mistreated that it worries me. In my town there are no good cops, I can't say there is just a few bad apples, the whole basket is rotten. Worried;Check out: policecrime.proboards28.com/index.cgi?board=policenews&action=display&thread=1169368494If this problem exists in your home town it is from the top down. The action of returning a bad bushel of rotten apples will likely net you a coupon for "Buy one get one free". Now you have twice the bad apples and they are even more rotten than the original batch. My suggestion is to go after the vendor. The Mayor, City council, or whoever. Remember the Nuremberg defense "I was just following orders".
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Post by Shuftin on Jan 12, 2007 14:43:19 GMT -5
In my first post on this subject I suggested that quote/unquote "With a small amount of imagination police officers can be construed as traitors of the people." Traitor may also mean a person who betrays (or is accused of betraying) their own political party, family, friends, ethnic group, religion, social class, or other group to which they may belong. Often, such accusations are controversial and disputed, as the person may not identify with the group of which they are a member, or may otherwise disagree with the group leaders making the charge. See, for example, race traitor. Oran's Dictionary of the Law (1983) Example: We grew up together. We ran together. We played together. We scraped our knees together. We went to school together. We played sports together. We chased women together. We drank beer together. We smoked pot together. We backed and supported each other. We were best friends. One day you became a turncoat. You became my enemy when you aliened yourself with and are on the payroll of the common enemy which is the oppressive dictatorial Government. Now I fear you and I cannot trust you nor can I turn my back on you. Does this mean that you are committing treason against my country? No, of course not. Police officers Serve and Protect the Government. Police officers DO NOT Serve and Protect the people. This is a conflicting interest as you cannot serve two masters especially when the two masters are pitted against each other. Matthew 6:24 NIV. If you straddle the fence you will be fired by one master and mistrusted/hated by the other master. I have never accused police officers of violating the Constitution as they are merely minimum wage (paddy flipping) employees of the Government. Shit rolls down hill. First Government, then Judges, then prosecuting attorneys, then police officers. My heart goes out to police officers. Police officers are sworn to uphold the Constitution yet few of them actually know the Constitution. Your original question was " Can the "State"ever be the victim"? If there is no injured party then there is no crime. The example given was treason. I never suggested treason although I understand where you're coming from. If there is treason it is against the people, not the State. The State is the people, for the people, and by the people. To suggest that the State is an injured party separate from the people is purely wrong unless you believe that the State is dictatorial and is thus a victim of the people demanding their Constitutional rights. In law, treason is the crime of disloyalty to one's nation or state. A person who betrays the nation of their citizenship and/or reneges on an oath of loyalty and in some way willfully cooperates with an enemy, is considered to be a traitor. Oran's Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as: "... citizen's actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the [parent nation]." In many nations, it is also often considered treason to attempt or conspire to overthrow the government, even if no foreign country is aided or involved by such an endeavor.
More on this later as I have to go to work
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Post by Shuftin on Jan 12, 2007 14:43:19 GMT -5
In my first post on this subject I suggested that quote/unquote "With a small amount of imagination police officers can be construed as traitors of the people." Traitor may also mean a person who betrays (or is accused of betraying) their own political party, family, friends, ethnic group, religion, social class, or other group to which they may belong. Often, such accusations are controversial and disputed, as the person may not identify with the group of which they are a member, or may otherwise disagree with the group leaders making the charge. See, for example, race traitor. Oran's Dictionary of the Law (1983) Example: We grew up together. We ran together. We played together. We scraped our knees together. We went to school together. We played sports together. We chased women together. We drank beer together. We smoked pot together. We backed and supported each other. We were best friends. One day you became a turncoat. You became my enemy when you aliened yourself with and are on the payroll of the common enemy which is the oppressive dictatorial Government. Now I fear you and I cannot trust you nor can I turn my back on you. Does this mean that you are committing treason against my country? No, of course not. Police officers Serve and Protect the Government. Police officers DO NOT Serve and Protect the people. This is a conflicting interest as you cannot serve two masters especially when the two masters are pitted against each other. Matthew 6:24 NIV. If you straddle the fence you will be fired by one master and mistrusted/hated by the other master. I have never accused police officers of violating the Constitution as they are merely minimum wage (paddy flipping) employees of the Government. Shit rolls down hill. First Government, then Judges, then prosecuting attorneys, then police officers. My heart goes out to police officers. Police officers are sworn to uphold the Constitution yet few of them actually know the Constitution. Your original question was " Can the "State"ever be the victim"? If there is no injured party then there is no crime. The example given was treason. I never suggested treason although I understand where you're coming from. If there is treason it is against the people, not the State. The State is the people, for the people, and by the people. To suggest that the State is an injured party separate from the people is purely wrong unless you believe that the State is dictatorial and is thus a victim of the people demanding their Constitutional rights. In law, treason is the crime of disloyalty to one's nation or state. A person who betrays the nation of their citizenship and/or reneges on an oath of loyalty and in some way willfully cooperates with an enemy, is considered to be a traitor. Oran's Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as: "... citizen's actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the [parent nation]." In many nations, it is also often considered treason to attempt or conspire to overthrow the government, even if no foreign country is aided or involved by such an endeavor.
More on this later as I have to go to work
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Post by Shuftin on Jan 11, 2007 11:02:00 GMT -5
Do you think this officer committed misconduct? At 4:45 am after a night of drinking and dancing at a downtown hotel, BLANK was driving with evaline and two friends. He skidded on the ice into the path of an oncoming car. " I got out of my car and went over to the other driver and told him who I was." The driver was a 21 year old machinist named Robert Sims from East Cleavland. BLANK explained that he agreed with Sims to have him follow BLANK to the hospital. When he realized that Sims was not following him, BLANK returned to the accident scene, but another motorist had already taken Sims to the hospital. " After I got home, I immediately called the hospital and talked to someone. I wanted to make sure the injured man was all right. I said that I would have my insurance adjusters on the job in the morning." The accident did serious injury to BLANK's reputation. The newspapers had characterized it as a "hit-skip" accident and focused on the fact that BLANK had been drinking. (info provided by http://www.crimelibrary.com) SUBSTITUTE BLANK with Elliot Ness then Director of Public Safety in Cleavland. This goes to show that even heroes have feet of clay. What would be done today if this happened? Once again, the good old days weren't perfect. Do you think this officer committed misconduct?Misconduct -- wrongdoing violations of departmental procedures. Different types of misconduct are as follows: Malfeasance -- intentional commission of a prohibited act or intentional unjust performance of some act of which the party had no right (e.g., gratuity, perjury, use of police resources for personal use) Misfeasance -- performance of a duty or act that one is obligated or permitted to do in a manner which is improper, sloppy, or negligent (e.g., report writing, unsafe operation of motor vehicle, aggressively "reprimanding" a citizen, improper searching of suspect) Nonfeasance -- failure to perform an act which one is obligated to do either by law or directive due to omission or failure to recognize the obligation (e.g., failure to file report, improper stop & frisk, security breach) The answer to your questionin yes BLANK did committed misconduct
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Post by Shuftin on Jan 11, 2007 11:02:00 GMT -5
Do you think this officer committed misconduct? At 4:45 am after a night of drinking and dancing at a downtown hotel, BLANK was driving with evaline and two friends. He skidded on the ice into the path of an oncoming car. " I got out of my car and went over to the other driver and told him who I was." The driver was a 21 year old machinist named Robert Sims from East Cleavland. BLANK explained that he agreed with Sims to have him follow BLANK to the hospital. When he realized that Sims was not following him, BLANK returned to the accident scene, but another motorist had already taken Sims to the hospital. " After I got home, I immediately called the hospital and talked to someone. I wanted to make sure the injured man was all right. I said that I would have my insurance adjusters on the job in the morning." The accident did serious injury to BLANK's reputation. The newspapers had characterized it as a "hit-skip" accident and focused on the fact that BLANK had been drinking. (info provided by http://www.crimelibrary.com) SUBSTITUTE BLANK with Elliot Ness then Director of Public Safety in Cleavland. This goes to show that even heroes have feet of clay. What would be done today if this happened? Once again, the good old days weren't perfect. Do you think this officer committed misconduct?Misconduct -- wrongdoing violations of departmental procedures. Different types of misconduct are as follows: Malfeasance -- intentional commission of a prohibited act or intentional unjust performance of some act of which the party had no right (e.g., gratuity, perjury, use of police resources for personal use) Misfeasance -- performance of a duty or act that one is obligated or permitted to do in a manner which is improper, sloppy, or negligent (e.g., report writing, unsafe operation of motor vehicle, aggressively "reprimanding" a citizen, improper searching of suspect) Nonfeasance -- failure to perform an act which one is obligated to do either by law or directive due to omission or failure to recognize the obligation (e.g., failure to file report, improper stop & frisk, security breach) The answer to your questionin yes BLANK did committed misconduct
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Post by Shuftin on Jan 11, 2007 9:27:04 GMT -5
NO INJURY NO COURT CASE.
Attachment to the complaint
Those four heroic JURORS knew, that only when actual injury, to
someone's person or property takes place is there a real crime. No law is
broken when no injury can be shown. Thus there can be no loss or
termination of rights unless actual damage is proven. Many imposter
laws were repealed as a result of this case.
THE FIRST AMENDMENT
The year was 1670, and the case Bushnell sat on was that of William
Penn, who was on trial for violation of the "Conventicle Act." This was an
elaborate Act, which made the Church of England the only legal church.
The Act was struck down by their not guilty vote. Freedom of Religion was
established and became part of the England Bill of Rights and later it
became the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. In addition, Right to
peaceful assembly was founded, Freedom of Speech, and also habeas
corpus. The first such writ of habeas corps ever issued by the Court of
Common Pleas was used to free Edward Bushnell. Later this trial gave birth
to concept of Freedom of the press. Had Bushnell and his colleagues
yielded to the guilty verdict sought by the judge and prosecutor,
William Penn most likely would have been executed as he clearly broke
the law.
HE BROKE THE LAW!
Then there would have been no Liberty Bell, no Independence Hall, no
City of Philadelphia and no state called Pennsylvania, for young William
Penn, founder of Pennsylvania, and leader of the Quakers, was on trial for
his life. His alleged crime was preaching and teaching a different view of
the Bible than that of the Church of England. This appears innocent today,
but then, one could be executed for such actions. He believed in freedom
of religion, freedom of speech and the right peaceful assembly. He had
broken government's law, but he had injured no one. Those four
heroic JURORS knew that only when actual injury to someone's
person or property takes place is there a real crime. No law is broken
when no injury can be shown. Thus there can be no loss or termination of
rights unless actual damage is proven. Many imposter laws were
repealed as a result of this case.
District Court Clerk's Manual
The U.S. Supreme Courts states
Overton v. Ohio, 151 L. Ed 3d 317 (October 2001):
IF THERE IS NO VICTIM, THERE IS NO CRIME
Title 18 section 666. Anything which interferes with land use is Racketeering.
Salinas v. United State, 118 S. Ct. 469 (1997)
The county is liable for its employees intent (conspiracy) to conduct city
and county business as a racketeering enterprise.
U.S. v. Hotel, 143 F. 3d 1223 (9th Cir 1998)
The County is liable for its agents/employees stealing anything without
probable cause on a tainted warrant that fails to narrowly list things with
particularity that are connected with a crime, and that fails to have
an attached affidavit from a victims injured in his or her business or
property.
State and federal law protects the unalienable rights to own property /
livestock, so the county is liable for its employees fabricated charges and
pre-textual search without probable cause.
Sierra Club v. Motin, 405 U.S. 727 (1972)
The United State Supreme Court of Appeals reversed, holding that the
Club lacked standing and had not shown irreparable injury. Held: A person
has standing to seek judicial review under the Administrative Procedure Act
only if he can show that he himself has suffered or will suffer injury,
whether economic or otherwise.
Hertado v. California, 110 US 516,
The United State Supreme Court states very plainly: "The state cannot
diminish rights of the people."
Steagald v. United States, 68 L. 2d 38 held: 2.
In any event, whatever practical problems there are in requiring search
warrant they cannot outweigh the constitutional interest
U.S. v. CRUIKSHANK, 92 U.S. 542 (1875)
MR. CHIEF JUSTICE WAITE delivered the opinion of the court.
CIVIL RIGHTS CASES, 109 U.S. 3 (1883)
See v. City of Seattle, 387 US 541, 18 L.Ed.2d 943, 87 S>Ct. 1737
Allen v. City of Portland, 73 F .3d, 232 (9th Cir. 1995):
TERRORISM IS AGAINST THE LAW-FEDERAL CRIMINAL CODES:
Title 18 USC Chapter 113B TERRORISM, Section 2331
Larry L. Fairchild v. Buena Vista Charter Township
Docket # 190810 L.C. # 95-7000 CZ Exhibit "A"
federal law enforcement officers who generally enjoy absolute immunity
from tort liability may nonetheless be held liable for damages for the tort
of trespass.
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Post by Shuftin on Jan 11, 2007 9:27:04 GMT -5
NO INJURY NO COURT CASE.
Attachment to the complaint
Those four heroic JURORS knew, that only when actual injury, to
someone's person or property takes place is there a real crime. No law is
broken when no injury can be shown. Thus there can be no loss or
termination of rights unless actual damage is proven. Many imposter
laws were repealed as a result of this case.
THE FIRST AMENDMENT
The year was 1670, and the case Bushnell sat on was that of William
Penn, who was on trial for violation of the "Conventicle Act." This was an
elaborate Act, which made the Church of England the only legal church.
The Act was struck down by their not guilty vote. Freedom of Religion was
established and became part of the England Bill of Rights and later it
became the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. In addition, Right to
peaceful assembly was founded, Freedom of Speech, and also habeas
corpus. The first such writ of habeas corps ever issued by the Court of
Common Pleas was used to free Edward Bushnell. Later this trial gave birth
to concept of Freedom of the press. Had Bushnell and his colleagues
yielded to the guilty verdict sought by the judge and prosecutor,
William Penn most likely would have been executed as he clearly broke
the law.
HE BROKE THE LAW!
Then there would have been no Liberty Bell, no Independence Hall, no
City of Philadelphia and no state called Pennsylvania, for young William
Penn, founder of Pennsylvania, and leader of the Quakers, was on trial for
his life. His alleged crime was preaching and teaching a different view of
the Bible than that of the Church of England. This appears innocent today,
but then, one could be executed for such actions. He believed in freedom
of religion, freedom of speech and the right peaceful assembly. He had
broken government's law, but he had injured no one. Those four
heroic JURORS knew that only when actual injury to someone's
person or property takes place is there a real crime. No law is broken
when no injury can be shown. Thus there can be no loss or termination of
rights unless actual damage is proven. Many imposter laws were
repealed as a result of this case.
District Court Clerk's Manual
The U.S. Supreme Courts states
Overton v. Ohio, 151 L. Ed 3d 317 (October 2001):
IF THERE IS NO VICTIM, THERE IS NO CRIME
Title 18 section 666. Anything which interferes with land use is Racketeering.
Salinas v. United State, 118 S. Ct. 469 (1997)
The county is liable for its employees intent (conspiracy) to conduct city
and county business as a racketeering enterprise.
U.S. v. Hotel, 143 F. 3d 1223 (9th Cir 1998)
The County is liable for its agents/employees stealing anything without
probable cause on a tainted warrant that fails to narrowly list things with
particularity that are connected with a crime, and that fails to have
an attached affidavit from a victims injured in his or her business or
property.
State and federal law protects the unalienable rights to own property /
livestock, so the county is liable for its employees fabricated charges and
pre-textual search without probable cause.
Sierra Club v. Motin, 405 U.S. 727 (1972)
The United State Supreme Court of Appeals reversed, holding that the
Club lacked standing and had not shown irreparable injury. Held: A person
has standing to seek judicial review under the Administrative Procedure Act
only if he can show that he himself has suffered or will suffer injury,
whether economic or otherwise.
Hertado v. California, 110 US 516,
The United State Supreme Court states very plainly: "The state cannot
diminish rights of the people."
Steagald v. United States, 68 L. 2d 38 held: 2.
In any event, whatever practical problems there are in requiring search
warrant they cannot outweigh the constitutional interest
U.S. v. CRUIKSHANK, 92 U.S. 542 (1875)
MR. CHIEF JUSTICE WAITE delivered the opinion of the court.
CIVIL RIGHTS CASES, 109 U.S. 3 (1883)
See v. City of Seattle, 387 US 541, 18 L.Ed.2d 943, 87 S>Ct. 1737
Allen v. City of Portland, 73 F .3d, 232 (9th Cir. 1995):
TERRORISM IS AGAINST THE LAW-FEDERAL CRIMINAL CODES:
Title 18 USC Chapter 113B TERRORISM, Section 2331
Larry L. Fairchild v. Buena Vista Charter Township
Docket # 190810 L.C. # 95-7000 CZ Exhibit "A"
federal law enforcement officers who generally enjoy absolute immunity
from tort liability may nonetheless be held liable for damages for the tort
of trespass.
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Post by Shuftin on Jan 10, 2007 10:46:53 GMT -5
I am not an advocate of drunk drivers nor do I back up or support child molesters. I am making an attempt, maybe poorly, to be an objective observer of the black and white of the law.
English was not my best subject in school. Nouns, verbs, adjectives, etc. In the comment about statutory rape the “subject” is in the wrong place. I was expressing a difference between a law that can be broken (crime) and a statute which can be violated. I chose statutory rape as an example because the word “statute’” is in the charge.
I’ll step off the legal soapbox and into the arena of personnel opinion in order to answer the rest of your question. Historically and even today who is an adult? Delving into culture. The Jewish people for thousands of years have considered twelve year olds adults. The bar mitzvah or the transformation from childhood into adulthood. The Arab countries marry each other off at twelve years old and sometimes younger. Asians for thousands of years and even today have pre-arranged marriages at twelve-fourteen years old. Today in Europe the age of consent is sixteen years old. Kings and Queens have taken the throne at twelve years old or so. The American revolutionary war and civil war was fought largely by fourteen-seventeen year old boys. Only in America are what other countries consider adults titled children until the age of twenty-one. The age of adulthood in America has been dropped down to eighteen years old and I’m sure that other countries are still laughing at us. If an adult that America considers to be a child is immature it is because we Americans have raised and groomed these supposed children to be immature. As an American I am perfectly willing to live by the American standards although I believe that America would be a better country if we raised our children to be better adults earlier. Currently we are in the quagmire of “the dummying down of America” as it is.
Alcohol. There is a Constitutional right to purchase alcohol and a Constitutional right to indulge in alcohol. A Constitutional right to purchase private property (vehicle) and a Constitutional right to utilize private property hover ever we see fit. If I wish to hang my lawn mower from my living room ceiling using fish hooks I can. We have two Constitutional rights in conjunction with each other. Do I like drunk drivers on the road? OH HELL NO. Is my Constitutional right to free travel infringed upon by a drunk driver? Not until I become an injured party, personal or property, and then the law steps in. It is the drunkard’s responsibility to stay out of my way and my responsibility to stay out of his way. I will not infringe upon his Constitutional rights and he had better not infringe upon my Constitutional rights. After the two individuals clash, and not before, does the law step in. One of our founding fathers stated “those who give up Constitutional rights in exchange for security deserves neither” or words to that effect. I do not enjoy the reality of a drunk driver on the road but then again I am not willing to chip away at our Constitutional rights for my safety either. We can interject “gun ownership” in lieu of alcohol and use the same argument. LOL, HUI hunting under the influence. No I’m talking about those who want to deny our Constitutional right to own and bear arms for the supposed security they believe it would bring. This all falls under the heading of pre-crime which upon self reflection I’ve noticed that I seem to have a problem with. Side note. Once a Constitutional right is given up it"s history, it will never be returned to the people by the powers that be. Our children will have fewer Constitutional rights then we do.
Declaration of Rights of the Inhabitants of Massachusetts
Article V-All power residing originally in the people, and being derived from them, the several magistrates and offices of government vested with authority, wether legislative, executive or judicial are their substitutes and agents, and are at all times accountable to them.
Common law or as some call it the “supreme law” of the land. Common law is the very foundation that the brick and mortar of the Constitution in built upon. This is a concept that fewer and fewer people remember or understand. I appreciate the fact that you are one of the decreasing members of society who know this.
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Post by Shuftin on Jan 10, 2007 10:46:53 GMT -5
I am not an advocate of drunk drivers nor do I back up or support child molesters. I am making an attempt, maybe poorly, to be an objective observer of the black and white of the law.
English was not my best subject in school. Nouns, verbs, adjectives, etc. In the comment about statutory rape the “subject” is in the wrong place. I was expressing a difference between a law that can be broken (crime) and a statute which can be violated. I chose statutory rape as an example because the word “statute’” is in the charge.
I’ll step off the legal soapbox and into the arena of personnel opinion in order to answer the rest of your question. Historically and even today who is an adult? Delving into culture. The Jewish people for thousands of years have considered twelve year olds adults. The bar mitzvah or the transformation from childhood into adulthood. The Arab countries marry each other off at twelve years old and sometimes younger. Asians for thousands of years and even today have pre-arranged marriages at twelve-fourteen years old. Today in Europe the age of consent is sixteen years old. Kings and Queens have taken the throne at twelve years old or so. The American revolutionary war and civil war was fought largely by fourteen-seventeen year old boys. Only in America are what other countries consider adults titled children until the age of twenty-one. The age of adulthood in America has been dropped down to eighteen years old and I’m sure that other countries are still laughing at us. If an adult that America considers to be a child is immature it is because we Americans have raised and groomed these supposed children to be immature. As an American I am perfectly willing to live by the American standards although I believe that America would be a better country if we raised our children to be better adults earlier. Currently we are in the quagmire of “the dummying down of America” as it is.
Alcohol. There is a Constitutional right to purchase alcohol and a Constitutional right to indulge in alcohol. A Constitutional right to purchase private property (vehicle) and a Constitutional right to utilize private property hover ever we see fit. If I wish to hang my lawn mower from my living room ceiling using fish hooks I can. We have two Constitutional rights in conjunction with each other. Do I like drunk drivers on the road? OH HELL NO. Is my Constitutional right to free travel infringed upon by a drunk driver? Not until I become an injured party, personal or property, and then the law steps in. It is the drunkard’s responsibility to stay out of my way and my responsibility to stay out of his way. I will not infringe upon his Constitutional rights and he had better not infringe upon my Constitutional rights. After the two individuals clash, and not before, does the law step in. One of our founding fathers stated “those who give up Constitutional rights in exchange for security deserves neither” or words to that effect. I do not enjoy the reality of a drunk driver on the road but then again I am not willing to chip away at our Constitutional rights for my safety either. We can interject “gun ownership” in lieu of alcohol and use the same argument. LOL, HUI hunting under the influence. No I’m talking about those who want to deny our Constitutional right to own and bear arms for the supposed security they believe it would bring. This all falls under the heading of pre-crime which upon self reflection I’ve noticed that I seem to have a problem with. Side note. Once a Constitutional right is given up it"s history, it will never be returned to the people by the powers that be. Our children will have fewer Constitutional rights then we do.
Declaration of Rights of the Inhabitants of Massachusetts
Article V-All power residing originally in the people, and being derived from them, the several magistrates and offices of government vested with authority, wether legislative, executive or judicial are their substitutes and agents, and are at all times accountable to them.
Common law or as some call it the “supreme law” of the land. Common law is the very foundation that the brick and mortar of the Constitution in built upon. This is a concept that fewer and fewer people remember or understand. I appreciate the fact that you are one of the decreasing members of society who know this.
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