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Post by Bomb Walmart on Dec 17, 2005 13:24:19 GMT -5
There has been reports at other stores like "Target" that the employess are not allowed to sey "Merry Christmas" to the customers.
Dec 14, 2005 - A festive group of high school choir students from Central Islip singing at an Islandia shopping center discovered over the weekend that some people were not in the holiday spirit.
After entering a Wal-Mart store, the choir was quickly asked to leave before even starting to sing its first song.
The Central Islip High School concert choir had just finished a performance at the United Methodist Church off Veterans Memorial Highway, when the students proposed to go caroling in the shopping center across the street.
Their director, John Anthony, approved the move and the group of about 30 students found warm welcomes at the Stop & Shop grocery store and other shops in the center. That is, until they entered Wal-Mart.
Right away, a store manager approached the award-winning group, announcing that they did not have an appointment and that the sheer size of the group posed a fire hazard, Anthony said.
The teens then sang one song - "Guide Me," a classic Welsh tune - to the delight of the customers.
"Sing more!" Anthony said the shoppers were screaming. But Wal-Mart was adamant and even called police. The students left peacefully before police arrived and no arrests were made.
The choir's merriment quickly disintegrated, the director said. "The kids were just 'Bah humbug!'" he added.
Wal-Mart officials released a statement this week saying the choir's appearance was unscheduled and created a fire code violation. "For their safety and the safety of our customers, we asked them to move," the statement read.
Wal-Mart has offered the school an opportunity for the choir to return at a scheduled time. The store also made an undisclosed donation toward the choir's trip next summer to Austria, where they will be one of three student choirs from the United States to perform at a celebration of the 250th anniversary of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's birth.
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Post by hadenough on Dec 17, 2005 14:45:39 GMT -5
It is popular and "hip" to be anti-God, anti-Christmas, etc. The anti-God, politically correct geeks show up everywhere, even on this website. There is a small, hardcore group that keeps this up, they will find out at the end of their earthly existence just how wrong they were. The stores that make their money off Christmas should be especially ashamed; the others are mostly mindless stooges that want to sound erudite and modern. We should pray for these most especially, as they are victims of government school and leftist media.
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Post by xaurreaux2 on Dec 18, 2005 0:00:44 GMT -5
SACRAMENTO, Calif. - A group of religious protesters demonstrated outside a Wal-Mart superstore Saturday, hoping to turn away customers by calling attention to the retailer's decision to use "happy holidays" rather than "merry Christmas" in its seasonal advertising.
But even shoppers who agreed with the protesters weren't willing to interrupt their quest for holiday deals.
"I believe in Christ, and I don't like the use of 'xmas' or the use of 'happy holidays,'" said Steven Van Noy, 39, as he left the store loaded down with packages. "The bottom line is that they had what I needed at Wal-Mart, so I went to Wal-Mart to buy it."
Controversy over the secularization of Christmas is nothing new, but this year religious groups are publicly taking on retailers who have decided to tone down the religious aspects of the holiday in their store decorations and promotional material.
In an online petition, the American Family Association recently gathered more than 500,000 signatures asking Target to include Christmas in its promotions. Stores such as Sears and Wal-Mart are facing boycotts.
Wal-Mart spokeswoman Amy Wyatt said the company has made no effort to remove Christmas from its holiday ads. She said a promotion set to run from mid-November to early January was simply misunderstood: its slogan is "home for the holidays."
"It was a matter of choosing a slogan that carries through the entire season," Wyatt said. "The signs went up before Thanksgiving and won't be taken down until after New Year's. The idea was to focus on the family."
About 50 protesters took part in Saturday's demonstration, organized by religious leaders. Dick Otterstad of the Church of the Divide donned a Santa Claus costume and greeted shoppers with the message: Don't forget about the meaning of Christmas.
"It is insulting that Wal-Mart has chosen to ignore the reason for the season," Otterstad said. "Taking the word 'Christmas' out of the holiday implies there's something sinful about it. ... This is a part of our culture."
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Post by oingbingboing on Dec 18, 2005 0:12:27 GMT -5
The Extreme right wing religious nuts (Pat Buchanan, Pat Robertson) want the US to be like Nazi Germany.
Unless we decent, normal Americans come together to fight these morons, we will have to deal with them.
Also where in the Bible does it tell you to buy Gifts for each other to celebrate the Birth of Christ? And while you're at it... where does it speak about funny looking lighted trees? You would think the celebrating and gift given would be like a daily thing, not just once a year.
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Post by turniphole on Dec 18, 2005 0:47:49 GMT -5
1)there are several holidays around the season
2)companies try to include everyone make money off of all kinds of peoples. who decided religion and capitalism had to mix?
3)i'm an atheist and love Christmas. I call it Christmas. yes, there is another 'Christmas' that is secularized that non-Christians still celebrate. if you have a problem with that, tough.
Christians have allowed and even promoted the secularization of Christmas in order to allow that holiday to grow, and now capitalism has consumed it into a big day thats as much about presents and Santa Claus as it is about Jesus.
if you're a Christian and have a problem with this, ask yourself, do you teach your kids about Santa Claus and buy lots of gifts? if so, you're just as guilty as anyone else. Santa Claus does way more to take the 'Christ' out of Christmas than a few corporations recognizing that there is more than one holiday going on within the same month.
Santa teaches greed. He says "what do you want?" and should instead say "what do you want to give?"
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Post by tex on Dec 18, 2005 1:25:13 GMT -5
Bill O'Reilly Is A Liar o rmaybe you already knew that, but here are a couple of lies he's been spreading about the so-called War on Christmas. thinkprogress.org/2005/12/14/silent-night-fraudFrom the article. ----- O'Reilly said, --- In Dodgeville, Wisconsin, the Ridgewood Elementary School has changed the song Silent Night to Cold in the Night and forced the kids to sing the lyrics, "Cold in the night, No one in sight, Winter winds whirl and bite," to the tune of the original Silent Night. --- O'Reilly was by no means the only conservative to repeat this story. During a Dec. 10 appearance on Fox News, Mathew Staver of the Liberty Counsel said the presentation at Ridgewood Elementary had "no balance here. They have no Christian Christmas carols." As it turns out, the entire story is a fraud. ----- O'Reilly's really on a tear with the "War on Christmas". Here's another story about lies he's spreading. Plano ISD has asked for a retraction, but the lies are still on the Faux News website. www.statesman.com/news/content/gen/ap/TX_OReilly_School_Dispute.htmlPlano schools angered over comment by Bill O'Reilly PLANO, Texas - School officials want talk show host Bill O'Reilly to retract his on-air comment about the district banning students from wearing red and green because the colors represent Christmas. O'Reilly told the audience on his Fox News Channel show "The O'Reilly Factor" that a Plano school told students they couldn't wear red and green clothing. "That's flat-out fascism," he said during the broadcast. The district, located in an affluent Dallas suburb, said in Wednesday's editions of The Dallas Morning News that it never has prohibited such clothing, and sent e-mails to parents and posted a statement on its Web site about the "false rumor." "What vehicle do I have to say Bill O'Reilly is flat wrong?" said Richard Abernathy, an attorney for the school district.
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