Judge Richard Weinberg: You Can't Cuss At Police

[mememe]

so.....don't you all agree that someone cussing at YOU is annoying??? Harrasment and Disorderly Conduct are my pet peeves......and yes....i'm a cop. " SOOOOOWEEEEEE and oink oink".....yeah, I love writing those people tickets..... ;D

[Sam I am]

mememe said:

so.....don't you all agree that someone cussing at YOU is annoying??? Harrasment and Disorderly Conduct are my pet peeves......and yes....i'm a cop. " SOOOOOWEEEEEE and oink oink".....yeah, I love writing those people tickets..... ;D

Fat ass donut eating cops are good for one thing, writing tickets because there too damn lazy to go out and catch the real criminals! You are a public servant so get use to it and quit being against the constitution, which you obviously don't give a rats ass about.

So go fuck yourself porky pig!

[Looking Behind My Back]

watcher said:

08.30.2006 - August 30, 2006 -- Screaming an anatomically impossible obscene suggestion at a police officer is against the law, a Manhattan judge has decided.

The quirky ruling, made public yesterday, concerns the case of Brooklynite Ramon Morena, who is charged with creating a public disturbance by shouting "Go fuck yourself" at a cop in the Theater District in March.

Morena's lawyer had tried to convince the judge that civilians enjoy a First Amendment right to criticize and verbally challenge police officers. The charges, he argued, should therefore be thrown out of court.

But Manhattan Criminal Court Judge Richard Weinberg didn't buy it. If you're disorderly, you're disorderly, the judge wrote - and there is no "police officer exemption" to the rule.

Morena now faces up to 15 days jail if found guilty of disorderly conduct.

"He's still maintaining that whatever conduct they're going to allege does not rise to the charge - and there was no public disturbance," his lawyer, David Bruce Rankin, said.

According to the summons against him, Morena was standing on the northeast corner of West 45th Street and Eighth Avenue at 11:21 on a Friday night, arguing with an unidentified woman.

When the police officer approached, Morena allegedly screamed, "Go fuck yourself. Fuck you, cop," the summons said.

Morena was issued a summons on the spot for disorderly conduct, defined by law as conduct that causes - or creates a risk of - public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm. Morena's screaming at the cop annoyed or alarmed the general public, the summons charges.

But any alleged screaming would be merely "a private annoyance" limited to the cop, the defense lawyer argued - and as such should have rolled off the officer's back.

The judge countered, "To adopt defendant's argument would be to effectively carve out a police-officer exception from the disorderly conduct statute and to condone the heaping of verbal abuse upon a police officer regardless of the circumstances. This the court will not do."

The case goes back before the judge on Sept. 5.

www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/curse_of_the_nypd_regionalnews_laura_italiano.htm

How many people ( be it man or woman) argue with
their wives, girlfriends, lovers or what ever it is you are sleeping with. I wonder if the Officer ever had an arguement with his significant other. Or how about the Judge. Everybody argues and say things that they apologize sometime later. ;D

[Jenna Tailia]

Hey Watcher, Go Fuck Your mother.

Thank you and have a nice day.

[Shuftin]

Jenna said:

Hey Watcher, Go Fuck Your mother.

Thank you and have a nice day.

Are you exercising your freedom of speech? If WaTcHeR were a police officer you’d be in jail right now. Or is this a one way street and police officers are above the law. It is apparent that you loath America.

To convict and to incarcerate “We the People” at your masters demand.

[WaTcHeR]

Jenna said:

Hey Watcher, Go Fuck Your mother.

Thank you and have a nice day.

Wow a snotty little 13 year old boy pretending to be a girl, how original.

You have a nice day to Jenna.

[WaTcHeR]

12.22.03
HELENA, Mont. — Cursing at someone is a crime if the obscenities can be considered "fighting words," and it doesn't matter that the remarks are directed at a police officer who's been trained to keep his cool, the Montana Supreme Court has ruled.

The 5-2 ruling on Dec. 18 said such unprovoked utterances are not protected by the constitutional right to free speech. Any obscene language likely to provoke violence can bring an arrest for disorderly conduct, the court held.

In October 2000, Malachi Robinson swore loudly at Missoula County Deputy David McGinnis, who was parked in his squad car, calling him a "(expletive) pig," according to court documents.

McGinnis got out and confronted Robinson, asking him "if there was anything he wanted to talk about." Robinson swore again at McGinnis, who arrested him. Robinson was convicted of disorderly conduct and fined $50.

"It is one thing to expect peace officers to exercise more restraint than the average citizen," Justice Bill Leaphart wrote for the majority. "However, it is quite another to allow the likes of Malachi Robinson to gratuitously test that restraint without fear of being charged with disorderly conduct."

In a dissenting opinion, Justice Patricia Cotter said McGinnis was to blame for escalating the incident by challenging Robinson to further conversation.

"Had McGinnis let it go and driven on once the light turned green, the two men would never have faced off on the street," Cotter said.

www.firstamendmentcenter.org/%5Cnews.aspx?id=12383

[WaTcHeR]

Every now and then, someone gets charged with a crime (usually a version of disorderly conduct) for uttering a naughty word in public. Courts often find that language common in locker rooms, high schools, and HBO isn't entitled to constitutional protection if, uttered publicly, it disturbs someone, or might have, particularly if the profanity falls upon the tender ears of a minor.

The Supreme Court declined to take a case that tested the limits of the government's ability to criminalize foul language. Malachi Robinson, a candidate for Stupid Criminal of the Week --

was walking down the street about midnight four years ago when he called the Missoula county deputy in a nearby squad car a "(expletive) pig." The deputy got out and confronted Robinson, who uttered another expletive at the officer.

It should come as no surprise that Robinson was arrested. But, unnecessarily obnoxious and offensive as Robinson was being, didn't he have a right to express his opinion about public employees? He didn't cause a confrontation; the officer could have stayed in the squad car. Police officers aren't children; they might not like what they hear, but this probably wasn't the first time the officer had encountered abusive opinions about law enforcement. Shouldn't the first amendment protect the right to be publicly disrespectful?

www.talkleft.com/story/2004/05/03/944/77696

[WaTcHeR]

Supreme Court won't hear dispute over cursing at cops

05.03.04 - WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court, sidestepping a dispute over cussing, refused today to consider whether a Montana man's foul language to a law enforcement officer was free speech protected by the Constitution.

The man, Malachi Robinson, was walking down the street about midnight four years ago when he called the Missoula county deputy in a nearby squad car a "(expletive) pig." The deputy got out and confronted Robinson, who uttered another expletive at the officer.

His swearing earned Robinson a $50 fine for disorderly conduct. He also was sentenced to 10 days in jail, but the judge suspended that.

Today the justices declined without comment to review his appeal in Robinson v. Montana. Their refusal does not address the merits of the issue.

By declining to hear Robinson's appeal, justices left undisturbed a Montana Supreme Court ruling that unprovoked utterances are not protected.

"The First Amendment ought to protect citizens who criticize officials, even if it's in a crude manner, as long as there was no threat involved," Robinson's attorney, Jeffrey Fisher of Seattle, said in an interview.

Fisher said while the comments may have been "crude, obnoxious and offensive," they did not rise to the level of threatening "fighting words" unprotected by the First Amendment.

Fisher said courts around the country are divided over what constitutes "fighting words," and that without clarification from the Supreme Court some people could be unfairly targeted.

"Officers whether consciously or not may selectively arrest some people for using profanity toward them, while turning the other cheek with respect to others," Fisher told justices in a court filing. "This is not an acceptable way to administer criminal law, especially where free speech concerns are at stake."

A criminal lawyers' group urged the Court to hear the case of Robinson, who did not have enough money to pay the standard fees in his Supreme Court appeal.

The conviction stigmatizes Robinson and also stands in the way of his job opportunities, Washington lawyer Katherine Fallow, representing the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, told justices.

The state of Montana did not file a response to the Supreme Court appeal.

www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=13272

[md4j]

Sam said:

mememe said:

so.....don't you all agree that someone cussing at YOU is annoying??? Harrasment and Disorderly Conduct are my pet peeves......and yes....i'm a cop. " SOOOOOWEEEEEE and oink oink".....yeah, I love writing those people tickets..... ;D

Fat ass donut eating cops are good for one thing, writing tickets because there too damn lazy to go out and catch the real criminals! You are a public servant so get use to it and quit being against the constitution, which you obviously don't give a rats ass about.

So go fuck yourself porky pig!

Well sam. Show me where writing speeding tickets goes against the constitution.

[md4j]

shuftin said:

Jenna said:

Hey Watcher, Go Fuck Your mother.

Thank you and have a nice day.

Are you exercising your freedom of speech? If WaTcHeR were a police officer you’d be in jail right now. Or is this a one way street and police officers are above the law. It is apparent that you loath America.

To convict and to incarcerate “We the People” at your masters demand.

Actually typing something isn't disturbing the peace because it isn't spoken. While what he said is out for the public to see they must come to your website in order to read it.

As far as convictions go, that's not police that's the DA. Maybe you should stop worshiping yourself and realize that there are laws.

[Kanzler]

Fuck the judge...and all of the stinkin PIGS too.

Lets put the Constitution back into effect. 2nd Amendment specifically.

[gc505]

Contact the freedom-hating bitch at home about his decision to restrict free speech:

Richard M. Weinberg
53 Old Post Road N
Croton On Hudson, NY
10520
[phone]

Go fuck yourself, Judge Weinberg.

[Critique]

gc505

That is so cool. Thank you. We don't advocate action on this web site but information is indeed power. What people do from here is up to them. Inside information is always welcomed and appreciated.